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COP Conversations: All at Sea
In Marwa Al-Sabouni's Building for Hope she speaks about the generational differences in perspectives between herself and her daughter. Reflecting on the potential for finding revolutionary solutions by having an intergenerational approach, we curated these Change our Planet (COP) conversations between writers and thinkers of different generations. From the natural world to the built environment, the COP Conversations encourage us to craft the future of our planet hand-in-hand, with open minds.
Philip Hoare's lifelong fascination with aquatic life has seen him coordinate the Moby Dick Big Read project, as well as write a number of whale-related books, including his latest, Albert and the Whale: Albrecht Dürer and How Art Imagines Our World. Here, he is in conversation with Kartik Shanker, an evolutionary ecologist, whose love affair with nature began with a sea turtle he encountered as a boy. Together they discuss the mysteries of the deep and what the oceans have to offer us as we try to keep our planet healthy and balanced.